You guys put out your first record three years ago, but now you're bona fide stars.  What's the fame like?  Are you hitting a lot of Hollywood parties? 

Benji: I've actually never been to one.  I've been to bars that are hard to get into.  We'll stand there for a half hour looking at our shoes.  I don't like places where you have to "be someone".

Joel: And then you'll get these famous people who are trying to be down.

Benji: Sometimes you'll watch [a famous person] be totally stuck-up, and then they'll walk over and be like, "Yeah, bro."  And you're like, "If you didn't know who my band was, you'd be treating me just like you treated that person!"

You guys also have become heartthrobs...

Benji: Yet I still don't have a girlfriend.  Can you help me out with that?  It's funny when I get a letter from a girl saying, "You're so hot."  I always think, "Oh, they just like me because I have died hair and tattoos.  They haven't looked close enough."

So you don't buy it?

Benji: I don't think I ever will.  When I was 16, my best friend and I were sitting in his room, listening to music, and from out of nowhere, he looked at me and said, "You're ugly."  I didn't say anything we just went about out day.  But it never will leave me.  Ever.

Do you want a girlfriend?

Benji: There are times when I would give anything to have someone to share this with, besides my brother.

What about you, Joel?

Joel: If I liked a girl, she would never know it.  I could meet you and like you and you would never know it.  Ever.

Benji: I put my vibe out, but I won't make the first move, and I won't be the first person to call.  I'm afraid of the shoot down.  I might say, "I don't know.  Maybe we should like kiss or something."

Joel: That's romantic.

Do you have a romantic side Benji?

Benji: I'm romantic, but I save it.  I can definitely hear my instincts calling me, though, I haven't had a girlfriend in three years...

Joel: ...and he talks about it all the time.  I think he's ready to settle down.

Are there wall-to-wall groupies backstage at Good Charlotte shows?

Benji: We would definitely disappoint Motley Crue.

Joel: The kind of girl we end up hanging out with is the chick who's normal, who likes music.  It's not the girl looking to hook up.

You're really into punk music.  What do you think of someone like Avril Lavigne, who wonders why she should know who the Sex Pistols are?

Benji: She's a pop singer.  It's not the most profound music ever, but she's just having fun.  Why should she know who the Sex Pistols are?

Joel: I'm not even going to get into what's punk because thats such a dumb conversation. Usually, I'm like, "They're cool, they're doing what they love."  But there's something really annoying about her.

What pop acts do you listen to?

Benji: I don't like pop music.  There have been certain songs where I'm like, "That's pretty cool."  Like the T.a.t.u. song ["All the Things She Said"]...

Joel: They're disgusting.

Benji: Can I finish?  Every now and then, there will be a pop song that's catchy, but the rock world is 180 degrees from pop.  Rock is less about what you look like and more about the content of your lyrics.

Joel, what's your problem with T.a.t.u.?

Joel: They're being exploited.  It's some old man saying, "I know what will sell!  We'll take these innocent girls, write songs for them, and get them to make out with each other."  When you're young and struggling, you'll do anything to make it.  It's a new low.